Since the start of Russia’s invasion, millions of people have left Ukraine to get to safety. This podcast episode deals with the situation of Ukrainian refugees. Karolina Łukasiewicz and Irina Mützelburg, who have both studied migration and asylum policies for years, explain what difficulties refugees face, how Poland, hosting by far the largest number has been welcoming Ukrainians and how the EU’s treatment of Ukrainian refugees differs from that of Syrian refugees in 2015 and other asylum seekers. (Music: “Complete” by Modul is licensed under a CC BY-NC-ND 3.0-License.)

Speakers: Karolina Łukasiewicz (https://www.migracje.uw.edu.pl/zespol/karolina-lukasiewicz/ ) (Centre of Migration Research, University of Warsaw): https://www.migracje.uw.edu.pl/zespol/karolina-lukasiewicz/ Irina Mützelburg (ZOiS): https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/about-us/staff/dr-irina-muetzelburg Stefanie Orphal (ZOiS): https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/about-us/staff/dr-stefanie-orphal

Further reading: Piotr Goldstein, Félix Krawatzek: War in Ukraine: What Do Young Poles Think?, ZOiS Spotlight 18/2022, https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/publications/zois-spotlight/war-in-ukraine-what-do-young-poles-think Past podcast episodes on the Belarus ‚border crisis‘: Die Situation an der EU-Grenze zu Belarus: Teil 2 (German, with Irina Mützelburg): https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/podcast-roundtable-osteuropa/2021/die-situation-an-der-eu-grenze-zu-belarus-teil-2
The Situation at the Belarus-EU Border: Part 1 (with Dr. Karolina Łukasiewicz): https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/podcast-roundtable-osteuropa/2021/the-situation-at-the-belarus-eu-border-part-1